Legislature(2005 - 2006)BUTROVICH 205

03/16/2005 01:30 PM Senate HEALTH, EDUCATION & SOCIAL SERVICES


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01:34:01 PM Start
01:35:16 PM SB24
01:49:47 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
+= SB 24 REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIREES TELECONFERENCED
Moved CSSSSB 24(HES) Out of Committee
                 SB 24-REEMPLOYMENT OF RETIREES                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON announced SB 24 to be up for consideration.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
1:35:16 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES Deputy Commissioner, Department of Administration                                                                   
(DOA), said:                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
     What we have before you is  a draft amendment to SB 24.                                                                    
     The amendment is based on  the language in the original                                                                    
     HB 242,  which has passed  by the legislature  and only                                                                    
     applied to  the TRS  system at  that time.  It required                                                                    
     local  school boards  to adopt  a resolution  and state                                                                    
     that  they had  a  recruitment problem  prior to  being                                                                    
     able to bring anybody back from retirement.                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     This amendment  would adopt  that same  requirement for                                                                    
     the   PRES  system,   which   would   apply  to   local                                                                    
     municipalities.   The   government  body   under   this                                                                    
     provision  would  be  required  to adopt  a  policy  by                                                                    
     resolution  and identify  where  they have  recruitment                                                                    
     challenges.                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     An  additional step,  prior  to  bringing anybody  back                                                                    
     from retirement would be required  to certify that they                                                                    
     had  a competitive  hiring process.   If  adopted, this                                                                    
     amendment would  make the state, the  school districts,                                                                    
     and  the local  municipalities all  consistent in  that                                                                    
     what  we think  is the  original intent  of HB  242 and                                                                    
     that  is to  use  this  a tool  only  when  there is  a                                                                    
     recruitment difficulty.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON moved Amendment 1.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON objected  for the purpose of  discussion. He asserted                                                               
one  reason  not  to  adopt  the  amendment  today  is  that  the                                                               
committee has  not given  municipalities a  chance to  comment on                                                               
it. The municipalities might object  to what they may perceive as                                                               
mandate upon their business.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
1:37:35 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR ELTON asked whether TRS  employees are required to notify                                                               
the director of the division of their resolution.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES  responded they are  required to notify  the Division                                                               
of Retirement and Benefits.                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  asked whether the  fiscal note would change  as a                                                               
result of the amendment.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MELANIE  MILLHORN,  Commissioner,   Division  of  Retirement  and                                                               
Benefits, said  the fiscal note would  not change as a  result of                                                               
the amendment.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
1:39:20 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR   ELTON   said   although  Chair   Dyson's   concern   is                                                               
appropriate, he believes the amendment is reasonable.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LYDA GREEN arrived at 1:40:22 PM.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON withdrew his objection.                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR  DYSON  asked  whether there  were  further  objections  to                                                               
adopting Amendment 1 and hearing none, Amendment 1 was adopted.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:43:14 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN remarked  that an issue arose in  the past meeting                                                               
regarding the state's future  obligations to current participants                                                               
that are  under the HB 242  umbrella. He asked the  bill sponsors                                                               
to discuss  the issue during  the executive session.  The state's                                                               
obligation to current participants is a big part of the bill.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES  offered to be  available to have that  discussion at                                                               
any point in the process.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked  Mr. Tibbles whether he was ready  to have that                                                               
discussion at the present time.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES  advised it  could not  be done  at the  present time                                                               
since the division had to consult the Department of Law first.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
CHAIR DYSON asked when it could be done.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. TIBBLES  said the drafting  attorney working on the  issue is                                                               
out of town for a week so he could not do it before then.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN  suggested notifying  Senator Therriault  that the                                                               
committee sees a need for an executive session.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
1:46:17 PM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR WILKEN moved  CSSSSB 24(HES) Version F,  out of committee                                                               
with  individual  recommendations   and  attached  fiscal  notes.                                                               
Hearing no objections, the motion carried.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
There being  no further  business to  come before  the committee,                                                               
Chair Dyson adjourned the meeting at 1:49:47 PM.                                                                              

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